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Fewer cars being hit by gas-guzzler tax

USA Today -- Automakers are using new technology to wean their performance models off the list subject to the dreaded federal gas-guzzler tax.

Advancing engine technology now is making it possible to produce cars that are more powerful but also more fuel efficient -- enough to avoid being subject to the federal tax that tacks up to $1,000 to $7,700 onto the price of new vehicles with very low mileage. Some top industry executives forecast the tax's demise within a few years.

"You will see that going away," says Steve Cannon, CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA. "All the new engine technology will avoid the gas-guzzler tax."

The tax was aimed at discouraging people from buying the least-efficient and most-emission-spewing of cars. But automakers are using technologies such as variable valve timing ...

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Submitted Oct 29, 2012 By: BurntOrange

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blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,534 Points:745,120 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 10:41:04 PM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse they will change it aso they get more money.
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,953 Points:2,114,690 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 5:10:37 PM Ignore remay Report Abuse Good news. A long way to go, though...
teenitup Champion Author Houston Posts:1,609 Points:247,010 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 7:43:08 AM Ignore teenitup Report Abuse evpv <<"pretty sure the last time the Federal gas tax was raised was under Reagan">> I don't recollect Reagan being in office in 1993, the last year the fed gas tax was raised.
StArrow68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,242 Points:1,357,565 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 6:50:52 AM Ignore StArrow68 Report Abuse There always has been plenty of performance without getting into gas guzzler tax vehicles.
el_fr Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,322 Points:741,775 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 6:18:54 AM Ignore el_fr Report Abuse Not an issue anymore
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SBlouch Champion Author San Antonio Posts:8,719 Points:1,856,320 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 1:06:20 AM Ignore SBlouch Report Abuse This is good news, but the federal gas-guzzler tax should fade away as more fuel efficient vehicles.
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TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,731 Points:1,973,725 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:46:21 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse See, that's all it takes to get manufacturers to"find" new ways to comply with environmental regulations once they find out they can do some things to put their product in compliance with standards and avoid assessments in order to sell their product? Now ain't that just sumthin?
menagerie1013 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,365 Points:687,265 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:41:04 AM Ignore menagerie1013 Report Abuse It is because people won't buy their cars if they will be hit with a gas-guzzler tax.
pbear316 Champion Author Akron Posts:2,015 Points:674,215 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:40:00 AM Ignore pbear316 Report Abuse Ok
REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:10,420 Points:2,004,320 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:39:54 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse Myth that "... You will see that going away, ...". Taxes never "go away", they are just diverted to another reason, project or excuse by the legislators.
02SilverStroke Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,013 Points:1,342,120 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:39:20 AM Ignore 02SilverStroke Report Abuse We need big heavy body on frame cars that will get great mileage. Take an old Crown Vic or 1980's Caprice, put a direct injection or turbocharged engine (Ford Ecoboost) and you could get 30 mpg or better.
kgbellman Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:2,698 Points:728,915 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:38:27 AM Ignore kgbellman Report Abuse They should want to improve, but thanks for most of us, they are also saving us taxes
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snky2k Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,383 Points:300,640 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:33:53 AM Ignore snky2k Report Abuse No more housewives in Hummers.
OldMan322 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,136 Points:1,591,685 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:32:16 AM Ignore OldMan322 Report Abuse "rahcat" Hopefully he will be out of office by then
96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:30:31 AM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse All they have to do is tie the "gas-guzzler tax" to the CAFE standard and they'll be back in business.
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UseLessGasFolks Champion Author Iowa Posts:5,431 Points:1,292,925 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:17:34 AM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse Those that waste fuel are OPEC's best friend.
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jetskijerry Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,881 Points:769,345 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 30, 2012 12:15:06 AM Ignore jetskijerry Report Abuse 4 mpg
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bababooey2 Champion Author Hartford Posts:6,337 Points:1,299,915 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 11:10:12 PM Ignore bababooey2 Report Abuse That is good it show manufacturers are doing there part to save fuel.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 11:08:55 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse okay
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,453 Points:660,025 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 11:08:15 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Darn.......Obama will have to think of a new tax.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,477 Points:1,507,455 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 11:08:12 PM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse It is about gummint regulations. All this economy must be paid for some way - in the price of the improvements and maintenance that makes the car more fuel efficient.
PrinceLH Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,677 Points:535,120 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 11:07:36 PM Ignore PrinceLH Report Abuse We get enough tax at the pumps!
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vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,079 Points:847,350 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 11:04:42 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse American cars have never been able to get the mpg of the foreign ones. Funny about that.
TheeRedRam Champion Author Hartford Posts:3,148 Points:669,710 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 11:04:35 PM Ignore TheeRedRam Report Abuse It is about time.
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BCM1 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,859 Points:782,020 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:51:15 PM Ignore BCM1 Report Abuse Better tech means better cars and better prices, but the government will still find a way to tax you.
gaswatchON Veteran Author Ontario Posts:463 Points:118,405 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:49:32 PM Ignore gaswatchON Report Abuse I Owned a 1969 Ford Torino in 1970 with a 302 cu in. 8 cylinder engine and I got 32 miles to the gal on the highway this car was mid size and made of steel, now days they consider 35 miles to the gallon in a plastic car with a four cylinder good gas mileage. Whats wrong with that picture?
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,117 Points:575,140 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:47:35 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse yep they have yanked the heart right out of ole detroit....no more 9000 S.U.X.'s(robo cop reference). no more muscle cars.leaded gas. : )cough cough hack hack a whole era gone with the independency of driving for ever on a couple dollars worth of gas. big earl killed america.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,767 Points:641,510 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:45:32 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Taxpayers need less taxes in the U.S.
splitrman Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,305 Points:313,365 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:42:23 PM Ignore splitrman Report Abuse I'll remember that when I replace my Chev with a Mercedes
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scubadaniel Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,406 Points:688,545 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:31:41 PM Ignore scubadaniel Report Abuse Stupid tax anyway.
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EvPv Champion Author Maine Posts:1,023 Points:262,775 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 10:25:08 PM Ignore EvPv Report Abuse pretty sure the last time the Federal gas tax was raised was under Reagan. If we paid for Iraq 2 (in 2003) with a gas tax because the only reason for Iraq's importance is the oil under it and the oil in the region, there would have been protests that would have made the anti-Vietnam protest look like child's play. I wonder what it would be per gallon of tax to pay for Iraq (not Afghanistan)? $2, $3....$5. It was not a cheap war, assuming we pay back the countries and people holding U.S. Treasury notes.
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