honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 7:14:03 AM
Another way to make more money with less effort.
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Gmsclecarparts

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 3:52:54 PM
85 octane pure gasoline is absolute garbage. One can bet the push for ultrea low octane fuel is tied directly to SD ethanol plants & corn producers. By making pure gasoline lower in octane, fuel suppliers will HAVE to blend corn based ethanol in the junk 85 octane gasoline just to get it up to 87 octane. This will in turn make consumers dependent on the ehanol laced mileage robbing E10 & one can bet soon to be forced on consumers... E15.
With numerous ethanol plants having been closed in the last few weeks, all this directive will do position SD's pure gaoline at a point that ethanol has to be added to it, keeping the entire corrupt process going. SD's corn farmers & ethanol producers can continue rubbing their greedy palms.
Heres some info straight from SD's agriculture website
http://www.nasda.org/cms/7195/8617/8835.aspx
"South Dakota’s main crops are corn, soybeans, wheat and hay. Roughly 40 percent of the corn produced in South Dakota goes towards ethanol production. There are 15 ethanol plants in the state, which produce almost 1 billion gallons per year, which is 10% of the nation’s ethanol supply. South Dakota has the nation’s highest number of farmer-owned plants and is fourth in total ethanol production."
That's where the emergency is, not possible fuel shortages of decent octane pure gasoline, the gasoline refined & sold to South Dakota consumers could easily & should be 87 octane MINIMUM pure gasoline!
[Edited by: Gmsclecarparts at 7/12/2012 4:55:45 PM EST]
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 2:55:59 PM
South Dakota has always had the higher elevations that call for 85 octane Regular. This should have been in place decades ago.
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sparky808

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 12:17:08 PM
Thank you for posting.
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gravityhurts

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 7:55:52 AM
Nope, I don't think so.
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 5:39:08 AM
"Oil companies and distributors say there could be possible fuel shortages if they are not allowed to sell 85-octane gasoline in South Dakota"
WHAT???
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jrs4125

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 5:32:06 AM
Informative article.
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justmedc

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2012 12:33:29 AM
ok
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:06:32 PM
85/86 octane has worked well in all the other states, it should work just fine in SD as well.
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Buffalo Joe

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:03:23 PM
Less octane = less MPG.
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flyfast

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:02:35 PM
PAY MORE GET LESS
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DesertRat2011

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 11:00:40 PM
Fuel mileage will go down
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min_fuel

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:59:53 PM
I don't know.
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MDTDriver

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California
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:57:26 PM
It may work in high elevations but thats all.
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BrucePen

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:56:33 PM
Big engines will run better.
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mgune9

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:55:56 PM
would like to read me about this - what is misfire range increase from 87 to 85 octane level?
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AnObserver

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:54:17 PM
Several states permit 85 octane - a bit of a shocj=k for thus f us from 87 octane states - I didn't notice any appreciable difference other than the cost was the same as 87 octane in other states.
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Jeff1944

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South Dakota
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:53:06 PM
Cenex in Sturgis SD has been selling 85 octane for over 2 years!
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Ayeghoti

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:52:41 PM
o
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Tracer2008

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:42:12 PM
Theres your first warning folks
"Possible fuel shortages could be possible"
Prices will raise again...
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john600

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:42:11 PM
octane booster is a joke you'd need to carry 2 cases to make any real difference. 1 bottle will change the octane of 15 gals. of gas by .1 -.2 pts. of octane.
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big_mac64

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:40:29 PM
ok
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eye-spy

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:38:59 PM
How I long for the days when there were only two choices of 100% Gasoline. Regular and Super. Also the price at the pump varied a few pennies, if ever, per GALLON. Oh Happy Days!!
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:36:13 PM
OK for the hills.
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Barfood

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:34:20 PM
I didn't know that about mountain states.
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Vette1967

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:33:24 PM
What is the purpose?
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john600

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:29:26 PM
Mountain states have had 84 or 85 octane for years. Problem is when your traveling and have it in your tank and come down into the lower altitudes motor starts to ping especially if your working the motor hard. 85 octane is readily available on the wholesale market it's what they add 10% ethanaol to, to get 87 octane oxygenated. AS ethanol increases octane they add it to the 87 to get midgrade and so on... Newer cars require higher octane due to higher compression so 85 will not cut the mustard out on the plains so if you find yourself with an engine knock due to low octane gas you have to get premium gas ASAP or you could throw in a couple gallons of E-85 even if your car isn't flex fuel to cure the knock. I've done it, it works.
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unicornIL

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:27:47 PM
oil companies and distributors claiming shortages, hhmmmmmm imagine that, why didn't they process it for higher octane in the first place??
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letmathe

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:24:17 PM
Only thing sold in IL
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pgriff1

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:24:16 PM
buy octane booster before going to SD
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a_lu_vasile

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:23:30 PM
Moving on....
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:23:29 PM
glad I don't live in that state
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wayoung56

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Alabama
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:22:29 PM
Interesting article...
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:21:43 PM
Needs more octane. 87 is low enough!
No thanks - I'll have none of that.
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aggietim

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:17:29 PM
bad idea
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hcivic

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:15:24 PM
ok, no problems here with it
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tessnlu

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:14:18 PM
ok
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my97jeep

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Washington
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:13:55 PM
Might be harmful to many engines. No way!
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greentre

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Pensacola
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:11:41 PM
Learned something new. Well at least corrected a misconception. i.e. lower octane = easier to ignite fuel; higher octane = harder to ignite fuel.
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SalukiCO

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:07:03 PM
I run on 85 just fine, but I do live at altitude.
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NemoIL

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:06:30 PM
Ehtanol is a bad overpriced fuel.
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mecforyou

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:05:49 PM
the only thing I use is E85
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bobdec

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Miami
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:03:40 PM
Glad I do not live there
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EmperorsFinest

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:03:21 PM
This doesn't sound right...
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umitb

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:00:38 PM
ok
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livedream

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 10:00:15 PM
Not sure if this is a good idea.....
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jad1960

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Gary
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 9:56:27 PM
Sounds like a dumb idea.
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blah2blah3

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 9:52:45 PM
hmmm
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walkingtall

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 9:41:52 PM
Not good.
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2012 9:39:22 PM
will it spread or will consumers force a change?
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