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PKVol Champion Author Nashville Posts:10,637 Points:1,923,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Sep 8, 2011 8:23:31 AM Ignore PKVol Report Abuse Post your opinion about which team will be the last undefeated team in the NFL for 2011. How good a team is has a lot to do with it, but so does the schedule. Last year, the Chiefs were the last undefeated team at 3-0 after week 4 and their bye week before the Colts took them down. In 2009, the Colts lasted the longest at 14-0 before losing to the NY Jets. In 2008, the Titans went 10-0 before also losing to the Jets. In 2007, it was the Patriots going 18-0 and capturing the AFC Championship before losing to the NY Giants in Super Bowl XLII. So two patterns have developed in the last few years: An AFC team has been the last undefeated team in the NFL for at least the past 4 years and in 3 out of the last 4 years, a New York based team (twice being the Jets) have ended the undefeated streak. In my opinion, last year's best of 3-0 was a little anti-climatic, and 2009 with both the Colts and Saints going 13 games was fun, but a little distracting. Chances are, there will be one or two teams go about 6-8 games and then that will be it.

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Post your opinion about which team will be the last undefeated team in the NFL for 2011.

How good a team is has a lot to do with it, but so does the schedule.
Last year, the Chiefs were the last undefeated team at 3-0 after week 4 and their bye week before the Colts took them down. In 2009, the Colts lasted the longest at 14-0 before losing to the NY Jets. In 2008, the Titans went 10-0 before also losing to the Jets. In 2007, it was the Patriots going 18-0 and capturing the AFC Championship before losing to the NY Giants in Super Bowl XLII.

So two patterns have developed in the last few years: An AFC team has been the last undefeated team in the NFL for at least the past 4 years and in 3 out of the last 4 years, a New York based team (twice being the Jets) have ended the undefeated streak.

In my opinion, last year's best of 3-0 was a little anti-climatic, and 2009 with both the Colts and Saints going 13 games was fun, but a little distracting. Chances are, there will be one or two teams go about 6-8 games and then that will be it.

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jwguts Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,782 Points:364,625 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 22, 2012 1:36:31 PM Ignore jwguts Report Abuse Too bad they lost to the Chiefs... took away the prestige for the Giants to end another streak.
jwguts Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,782 Points:364,625 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2012 9:44:56 AM Ignore jwguts Report Abuse A prophetic thread to start way back in September! Good run for the Packers. I didn't think they'd get past the Giants, continuing the trend of NY teams ending undefeated strings. Speaking of which, I seem to recall the '72 Dolphins having to come from behind to beat the Jets something like 27-24.
PKVol Champion Author Nashville Posts:10,637 Points:1,923,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Dec 15, 2011 12:26:29 PM Ignore PKVol Report Abuse Here we are at week 15, with everyone having played 13 games. With 3 games to play (@ KC, home vs. the Bears and home vs. Detroit), the Packers should be favored in each game and will be primed for the playoffs with a weekend off during the Wildcard round, which means they might not shut it down too much during these games. One more win will ensure homefield advantage during the playoffs. It will be fun to see how far they can take this show - they are certainly in a good position to match the Patriots record of 18-0 heading into the Super Bowl.
mrsports007 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:9,545 Points:1,614,340 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 17, 2011 8:04:51 AM Ignore mrsports007 Report Abuse i don't think packers lose a game until week 8 i believe. i think they might lose to the chargers. if not there it will be tough to play 2 games in 4 days. (tampa bay week 10 then detroit thanksgiving day) but glad to be the last undefeated team. feels good to be on top for a change.
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,223 Points:826,945 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Oct 17, 2011 7:42:04 AM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse Congrats Pack. From here on out you can count on two things. The pressure will mount each week and the teams that play you will all get sky high and begin to play their best game against you. What I remember from the Pats season was listening to all the sports interviewers asking the other teams how in the world can you possibly think you can beat this Pats team? It was ridiculous the way the other teams were disrespected. Not by the Pats but the reporters. It just pi$$ed everyone off and they played better each week it went along. There were no easy wins the second half of the year.
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,843 Points:308,115 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2011 8:18:48 PM Ignore TDice Report Abuse Hey, hey, hey C.S., on Sept. 9th, I posted Green Bay too. Will they lose a game this season? I still say the last one on their schedule because Rodgers will play about 1-2 series.
RecountFL Champion Author Miami Posts:8,754 Points:1,503,835 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2011 4:07:26 PM Ignore RecountFL Report Abuse And Indy, STL stay winless. Miami probably will also. Next week Indy @ NO, STL @ DAL, and DEN @ MIA. Miami might have the best shot at breaking their streak next week.
C.S. Champion Author Maryland Posts:17,495 Points:2,327,900 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2011 3:57:27 PM Ignore C.S. Report Abuse Sorry, Packers beat the Rams easily.
C.S. Champion Author Maryland Posts:17,495 Points:2,327,900 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2011 3:44:45 PM Ignore C.S. Report Abuse It's official! It's the Packers to the surprise of probably nobody! Packers beat Jacksonville while the Lions lost to the Niners! mrsports and myself were both right! [Edited by: C.S. at 10/16/2011 4:46:29 PM EST]
C.S. Champion Author Maryland Posts:17,495 Points:2,327,900 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 12, 2011 5:15:02 AM Ignore C.S. Report Abuse Leading up to their big Turkey Day tilt: Lions-SF, Atl, @ Den., Bye, @ Chi., Car. Packers-StL., @ Minn., Bye, @ SD, Minn, TB I'd love to see both teams undefeated on Nov. 24, but I can't see that happening. They'll both lose at least one game by then, and I think the Lions will lose first.
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,223 Points:826,945 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2011 10:30:31 AM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse Detroit seems to have all their more difficult games at home right now. Chicago last night, San Fran next week and Atlanta. That's huge for them since their fans are so jacked to have a good team finally. Lots of built up aggression. If they were playing IN San Fran or Atlanta I'd pick em to lose one of or both the next games but at home?..... not sure I can pick against them. Then they have Denver away. I'm thinking first loss to Chicago in Chicago week 10. But young teams without a lot of experience winning can have trouble understanding it's a 16 week season. There's a tipping point when they go from being the hunter to being the hunted. They won't be sneaking up on anyone any longer. They are now among the hunted. We'll see how they handle it. [Edited by: airfresh at 10/11/2011 11:30:55 AM EST]
mrsports007 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:9,545 Points:1,614,340 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2011 10:20:36 AM Ignore mrsports007 Report Abuse ok i will try this lions and packers stay undefeated until next week. really i am thinking the lions lose to the 49ers this week. that leaves the PACKERS as the only undefeated team left.
Roteque Champion Author Miami Posts:639,542 Points:1,346,165 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Oct 11, 2011 9:55:50 AM Ignore Roteque Report Abuse Lions 5-0 for first time since 1956
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,447 Points:3,333,155 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2011 11:41:30 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse WEEK 6 Green Bay 5-0 (vs. St. Louis) Detroit 5-0 (vs. San Francisco) ----------------------------------- Still winless ... Indianapolis 0-5 Miami 0-4 St. Louis 0-4
RecountFL Champion Author Miami Posts:8,754 Points:1,503,835 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 9, 2011 5:19:04 PM Ignore RecountFL Report Abuse Have to wait until tomorrow to see about Detroit. Indy (0-5) stays winless along with St Louis and Miami on a bye week. Next week IND @ CIN, MIA @ NYJ, and STL @ GB Not looking too good for either of them.
mrsports007 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:9,545 Points:1,614,340 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2011 3:14:26 PM Ignore mrsports007 Report Abuse packers will be the last undefeated team. lions lose this week against the bears. not sure how but i think the bears will pull out a win. recount i will just say the lions will lose every week until they do. lol.
brownsbacker80 All-Star Author Akron Posts:620 Points:458,740 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2011 2:34:48 PM Ignore brownsbacker80 Report Abuse The lions look very tough, but im going to have to go with the packers.. Rodgers is a big time qb
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,223 Points:826,945 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2011 10:02:28 AM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse If Detroit were playing in Chicago next week I'd pick them to lose their first game but I expect they will remain in the unbeaten ranks for at least another week. But I don't expect them to make it to their bye week. And yet the schedule doesn't look that challenging with all those games at home. Atlanta just doesn't look as good as I thought they'd be when the season started.
dakine Champion Author Orange County Posts:19,600 Points:3,591,875 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2011 8:15:55 AM Ignore dakine Report Abuse Detroit
C.S. Champion Author Maryland Posts:17,495 Points:2,327,900 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2011 5:55:19 AM Ignore C.S. Report Abuse Next 5 weeks: Packers-At Falcons, Rams, at Vikings, Bye, at Chargers Lions-Bears, Niners, Falcons, at Denver, Bye These teams don't play each other until Thanksgiving, which is strange scheduling! If GB gets past the Falcons, I think they'll be the last team standing. Detroit is good, but young teams tend to lose a game or two that they shouldn't.
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,447 Points:3,333,155 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2011 10:54:17 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse Oops, you're right - I got a little ahead of myself. ;o)
RecountFL Champion Author Miami Posts:8,754 Points:1,503,835 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2011 8:15:58 PM Ignore RecountFL Report Abuse Well Indy isn't 0-4 yet, but probably will be tomorrow. Then on to guessing who will win a game first of the winless teams.
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,447 Points:3,333,155 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2011 7:16:15 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse WEEK 5 Green Bay 4-0 (at Atlanta on SNF) Detroit 4-0 (vs. Chicago on MNF) ----------------------------------- Still winless at 0-4 Indianapolis Miami Minnesota St. Louis [Edited by: SUV4GUY at 10/2/2011 8:20:41 PM EST]
RecountFL Champion Author Miami Posts:8,754 Points:1,503,835 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 2, 2011 3:52:51 PM Ignore RecountFL Report Abuse Well Buffalo lost to Cincy and Detroit beat Dallas. Hope that doesn't affect your last prediction. lol
mrsports007 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:9,545 Points:1,614,340 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2011 9:32:37 AM Ignore mrsports007 Report Abuse buffalo will be undefeated until they lose to the eagles. detroit will lose this week against dallas packers will not lose until week 9 against chargers i think. should beat the falcons. but we will see.
soccerdadMO Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,449 Points:634,950 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2011 9:08:42 AM Ignore soccerdadMO Report Abuse Buffalo and Detroit lose after the same number of games 7, both going 7-1. Side note Minnesota and K.C. last teams to get a win.
dakine Champion Author Orange County Posts:19,600 Points:3,591,875 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2011 8:47:44 AM Ignore dakine Report Abuse Detroit
PKVol Champion Author Nashville Posts:10,637 Points:1,923,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2011 8:34:42 AM Ignore PKVol Report Abuse And now there are three: What odds could you have gotten on the Bills and Lions? Green Bay is not a surprise, although wins against the Saints and at Chicago are certainly impressive. Green Bay has a tough one in game five at Atlanta after what should be a pretty easy game this week against the Broncos at Lambeau. Buffalo has the Bengals in the Jungle this week before coming home in week 5 against the Eagles, which doesn't seem as daunting now as it was a few weeks ago. Detroit goes to Dallas this week. If they manage to get past the Cowboys, they come home for three in a row against the Bears, 49'ers and Falcons.
mrsports007 Champion Author Raleigh Posts:9,545 Points:1,614,340 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2011 8:45:00 AM Ignore mrsports007 Report Abuse i have to say my packers will be the last undefeated team schedule in our favor.
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,447 Points:3,333,155 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2011 8:18:58 AM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse WEEK 4 AFC Buffalo 3-0 (WKRP in Cincinnati) NFC Detroit 3-0 (at Dallas) Green Bay 3-0 (vs. Denver) Washington 2-0 (TONIGHT at Dallas on MNF / at St. Louis)
phatbak Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,212 Points:282,545 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2011 6:35:55 PM Ignore phatbak Report Abuse Jets fall. Down to 3.
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,447 Points:3,333,155 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2011 3:44:00 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse Number has dropped by 2 already AFC Buffalo 3-0 NY Jets 2-0 (at Oakland) NFC Detroit 3-0 Green Bay 2-0 (at Chicago) Washington 2-0 (at Dallas on MNF) [Edited by: SUV4GUY at 9/25/2011 4:47:25 PM EST]
dakine Champion Author Orange County Posts:19,600 Points:3,591,875 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Sep 24, 2011 9:08:36 AM Ignore dakine Report Abuse Washington or Detroit
phatbak Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,212 Points:282,545 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2011 3:40:35 PM Ignore phatbak Report Abuse Hard to go against the Pats - but I'm picking the Packers.
PKVol Champion Author Nashville Posts:10,637 Points:1,923,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Sep 23, 2011 8:25:20 AM Ignore PKVol Report Abuse Excellent points airfresh about the Pats, BB and Brady. Will certainly be a contender (and likely betting line favorite) each and every week to win. Of the seven remaining teams, they and the Packers are the most likely to get to at least 4-0.
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,223 Points:826,945 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Sep 19, 2011 8:30:21 AM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse The Pats have Buffalo and Oakland away before they come home to the Jets. Buffalo and Oakland don't look like patsies anymore but I'm thinking the offense will continue to put up the numbers against those two. Their D is not very good right now but is good enough to come home 4-0. They'll be home against the Jets with some motivation from the huge playoff disappointment. But it will depend on whether their D improves. The team as it looks right now won't be able to compensate for a below avg performance by Brady. One thing about BB coached and Brady led teams... they are relentless in their pursuit of perfection. Every week is a season onto itself.
PKVol Champion Author Nashville Posts:10,637 Points:1,923,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Sep 19, 2011 8:10:06 AM Ignore PKVol Report Abuse Based on the week 3 schedule (and the Philly loss on SNF), the best possibilities appear to be the Patriots, Jets and Lions, although all three are on the road. Just a note of thanks to my Titans for knocking my prediction out of the water by beating the Ravens! I didn't expect them to win this game even before the season started and expected it even less after last weeks' performance by both the Titans and the Ravens. All in all though, I'd rather the Titans win than my prediction come to fruition! After next week we are down to between 1-6 teams that will be 3-0.
SUV4GUY Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:24,447 Points:3,333,155 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Sep 18, 2011 7:23:14 PM Ignore SUV4GUY Report Abuse NEXT WEEK AFC New England 2-0 (at Buffalo) NY Jets 2-0 (at Oakland) Buffalo 2-0 (vs. New England) Houston 2-0 (at New Orleans) NFC Washington 2-0 (at Dallas) Green Bay 2-0 (at Chicago) Detroit 2-0 (at Minnesota) Philadelphia 1-0 (TONIGHT SNF at Atlanta, Next Week vs. NY Giants) [Edited by: SUV4GUY at 9/18/2011 8:26:03 PM EST]
PKVol Champion Author Nashville Posts:10,637 Points:1,923,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Sep 13, 2011 11:31:49 AM Ignore PKVol Report Abuse Well, the NFC South teams were all eliminated from contention in week 1 as they each lost and are tied atop their divisional standings at 0-1. Meanwhile, in the NFC North, three teams stand at 1-0, with only the Vikings losing. Also, the AFC East has three teams at 1-0 with Buffalo upsetting the Chiefs and only Miami losing a divisional match-up with the Patriots. The AFC North and AFC South each played against their own division, so had no choice (excepting a tie) of having two teams at 1-0 and two teams at 0-1. In the NFC East, NFC West and the AFC West, there are two teams at 1-0 in each division, with Philly and the 'Skins both at 1-0 as well as the Cardinals and 49'ers and the Chargers and Raiders, respectively. With week two coming up, there are only 4 match-ups of 1-0 teams (Raiders vs. Bills, Jags vs. Jets, Cardinals vs. Redskins and Chargers vs. Patriots).
TDice Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:21,843 Points:308,115 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2011 12:06:28 AM Ignore TDice Report Abuse Green Bay. ;)
RecountFL Champion Author Miami Posts:8,754 Points:1,503,835 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 8, 2011 5:21:58 PM Ignore RecountFL Report Abuse Tough year to pick the last one to lose a game. The Patriots seem like they'll be it this season.
C.S. Champion Author Maryland Posts:17,495 Points:2,327,900 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 8, 2011 10:52:46 AM Ignore C.S. Report Abuse With an abbreviated training camp, and injuries already mounting, I think every team will have at least one loss by Week 8. Last team left standing will be...the Colts! Just kidding! Packers are my official guess! (Heh, heh! I've already picked them as repeating SB champs! I hope I've now put the double hex on them!)
PKVol Champion Author Nashville Posts:10,637 Points:1,923,260 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Sep 8, 2011 8:54:48 AM Ignore PKVol Report Abuse I don't thing any team in the AFC East or South will get past 2-0. In the AFC North, if the Steelers get by the Ravens in week one, they have it pretty easy until game 8 at the Patriots, conversely, if the Ravens win in week one, they have it pretty easy until they play the Jets in game 4 and the Steelers again in game 8. The Steelers and Ravens, overall appear to have a pretty easy schedule as the AFC North plays the AFC South and NFC West. In the AFC West, the Chiefs have the Chargers in games 3 and 7 and otherwise have it pretty easy until they hit a 5 game gauntlet starting with game 10 at New England, home to Pittsburgh, at Chicago, at NY Jets and home to Green Bay. The Chargers are at New England in week 2 and at the Jets for game 6. In the NFC East, if the Eagles survive to 3-0, they've got it pretty easy to get to 9-0 before having to play at the Giants and home versus the Patriots in games 10 and 11. Conversely, if the Giants get to 3-0, they should be okay until game 8 at New England. I don't think either the Redskins or the Cowboys have any chance of getting to 4-0. The NFC South has the Saints with a fairly easy schedule, if they can get to 2-0 with wins over the Packers and Bears. They shouldn't be tested again until game 10 at Atlanta. Speaking of Atlanta, they have a brutal first 5 games, so I don't see them lasting. Tampa Bay and Carolina won't contend. In the Black & Blue NFC North, the Packers have a moderately tough schedule and have as good of a shot of staying unbeaten for a while as any team does. The Bears have tough games in 4 of their first 5 games and with Cutler's inconsistancy, probably won't last that long. The upstart Lions are probably a year away from being mentioned in this topic and the Vikings appear to be in a rebuilding mode. Out in the NFC West, no team appears capable of winning 2 games in a row, much less tying together an undefeated streak. With all of this analysis, my pick for 2011 is.... The winner of this week's Steelers vs. Ravens game. That winner will be the last unbeaten team for 2011 and I think that will be the Ravens.