_Sparty_

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 7:52:05 AM
The network should be taken out so we don't have to support that wasted effort
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BuzzLOL

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 9:37:40 AM
.. E85 is now about the same price as regular gas, sometimes even higher... and E85 gives 20-30% less gas mileage... so you can have all the E85...
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OceanArcher

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:52:52 AM
Somebody paid somebody off to get all these regulations adopted
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MertieMan

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:50:43 AM
No, something doesn't gotta give. We don't need this crap as there are very few vehicles currently on the road that can actually burn it. I don't even like the E-10 as it cuts down on milage.
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_Sparty_

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2012 8:21:47 AM
I wish they would disappear
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tnsher21

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2012 10:02:32 PM
You might want to look on the website for the Georgia Department of Transportation
They do list E85 gas station on page 2 of this document:
Ethanol Retail Locations (E85 & E10 unless noted)
In Tennessee: Tennessee Green Island Biofuel Stations lists E85 stations. It appears this document was last updated in 2010 - so if you are traveling it may pay to do some extra research.
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OceansidePoms

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 1:25:56 PM
ANY & ALL of this Ethanol crap should be eliminated, not mandated! & In many parts of the Southeast US & Midwest US there are a lot of Stations that offer Ethanol Free Gas! I would really like to have access to Ethanol Free Fuel that easily up here in the Northeast US (MA)! & You are complaining about not being able to find MORE Ethanol than we already are forced (as a majority) to put in in our cars, against our will?!? Save this post for the "Ethanol" threads, we don't need to hear it in General GAS Talk... Cuz Ethanol is NOT wanted in GENERAL GASOLINE, it's wanted by ethanol fans.. Every time I hear the word "ethanol", all I can picture (for some reason), is turning on the garbage disposal in my kitchen sink & throwing all the vegetable peelings, junk & unwanted portions of the corn etc. down the disposal to get ground up to nothing but a wet mush & then FORCING IT INTO MY CARS GAS TANK... I see my car DYING, not running well! I also see myself really only getting 90% of the product of which I paid for, that being Gasoline, because 10% of the Gas I am paying for, is not Gas, it's this awful unnecessary man made bio waste that I see in this reoccurring garbage disposal vision I have & this 10% absence of what I pay for, is replaced with, well, basically the crap I see in my garbage disposal after corn on the cob goes through a blender with a bunch of alcohol. Now can anybody really tell me that they would want ANYTHING even RELATED to that kind of cocktail, in their Vehicle? (One of your most important & expensive material possessions as well as your means of transportation)
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OceanArcher

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 12:17:13 PM
If there's such a demand/need for E85, why do I keep seeing cars with the flex/fuel and E85 badges pulled up to the standard E10 pumps -- EVEN WHEN THE E-85 PUMP IS THERE ?????
Ya think maybe they realize that E-85 ain't such a bargin after all ???
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_Sparty_

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 12:12:59 PM
Don't use food for transportation. It's not the long term solution to energy independence.
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Lilly02

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Rockford
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2012 5:51:08 AM
I agree with MertieMan.
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MertieMan

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 7:05:29 AM
You are wrong and so are they. Most vehicles currently on the road cannot burn E85. I basically have a new car and it cannot burn this E85 junk. We don't need anymore readily available junk like this as it already cuts down on gas milage far too much.
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jes

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 6:17:07 AM
Where I live there is no E85 fuel available. Doesn't make me mad at all. I have nothing that would run on the stuff. I don't want the E10 either, but nothing else is available.
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MIT05

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 5:29:33 AM
Not here.
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tractormantim

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Knoxville
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 11:32:32 PM
E85 in my employer's fleet gets about 25-30% lower MPG than on regular unleaded. Unless E85 is that much lower! in price, then it's a losing proposition.
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PatAZ

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 9:08:48 PM
My car won't run on that garbage.
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PithyOpiner

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 12:29:53 PM
I don't want to run my car on E85! Are you nuts, or what? You must work for the Obama administration.
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KrispyKreme

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 9:40:31 AM
Take a step back and think about this whole thing: Aside from the fact that oil companies have little to do with fuel sales at gas stations, E85 competes directly against oil companies. So oil companies themselves have 0 interest in making E85 available, and would probably rather see it disappear.
What you want is for the gas stations to make it more readily available. They don't care what kind of fuel they sell, as long as people buy it.
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gvan

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2012 9:12:03 AM
"Why many more E-85 stations are needed when relatively few FFV vehicles have been sold."
There are a lot of FFV vehicles on the road but many of the people driving the FFV vehicles don't buy E85.
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tattoo666TX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 7:21:12 PM
There are plenty of stations that sell E-85 in areas that have Ehtanol mandates. But fuel mileage sucks using E-85 and once you get outside of the areas that have mandates the E-85 pumps start to go away. What they really need to do is bring back NON-ETHANOL gas for everyone to use.
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E-Squirrel

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 4:52:36 PM
I am unsure of:
1. Why you think that the oil companies need to do this. 2. Why many more E-85 stations are needed when relatively few FFV vehicles have been sold.
Perhaps you could explain that, instead of leaving us wondering
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PatAZ

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2012 3:32:42 PM
We don't need E 85.
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ItisAJeepThing

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 7:32:34 PM
We don't want any stinking E-85 around here. Several stations have quit selling it for lack of demand.
NO FOOD OR FEED FOR FUEL! Convert to compressed natural gas (CNG). Clean cheap and all American!
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PhilT08

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2012 7:20:13 PM
oil companies should not be involved in E85 because they will control prices for PROFIT!!!!
pit oil against E85 and let the PRICE wars begin. Ethanol fuel gets less MPG but if the price is RIGHT it is worth buying for vehicles equipped to run on it.
if only oil had a viable opponent instead of having a MONOPOLY.
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